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Details From OTHH - Hamad Intl
To KLAX - Los Angeles Intl
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Stats Distance 7,540 nm / 13,964 km
Max Altitude 0 ft / 0 m
Waypoints 53
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Requested: OTHH N0466F240 LUBET L934 IMLAD L934 OBMON N0502F300 L934 ITNAS N0497F320 L934 DAVUS N0496F320 L602 TASMI UL602 ALPET N0486F340 L718 DEBNI SEVKU L718 KABAN N0485F340 UL718 ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL N0478F360 AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA M085F360 64N010W M085F340 6530N02000W 67N030W M085F380 68N040W 68N050W DARUB N0482F380 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN N0487F360 KU15S N0442F340 KU90Q N0422F320 PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR N0417F300 Q73 HAKMN KLAX Unmatched points: N0466F240 LUBET L934 L934 OBMON N0502F300 L934 N0497F320 L934 N0496F320 N0486F340 L718 L718 N0485F340 UL718 N0478F360 M085F360 M085F340 M085F380 N0482F380 N0487F360 N0442F340 N0422F320 N0417F300

Route

OTHH ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR HAKMN KLAX

ID Type Via Altitude (ft/m) Position (lat/lon) Dist (leg/tot) Name
O OTHH APT - 0 / 0 25.27450 / 51.60770 - / 0 nm Hamad Intl
• ITNAS FIX - 0 / 0 27.77880 / 49.66580 183 / 183 nm
• DAVUS FIX - 0 / 0 28.39620 / 49.10620 47 / 230 nm
• TASMI FIX - 0 / 0 30.02220 / 47.91810 115 / 346 nm
• GADSI FIX UL602 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 30.56610 / 47.18780 50 / 396 nm
• ALPET FIX UL602 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 31.20530 / 46.31220 59 / 455 nm
• DEBNI FIX - 0 / 0 33.17040 / 44.28410 156 / 612 nm
• SEVKU FIX - 0 / 0 36.09670 / 43.28780 182 / 794 nm
• KABAN FIX - 0 / 0 37.24890 / 42.64970 75 / 870 nm
• ULSAB FIX - 0 / 0 38.14250 / 41.13140 89 / 960 nm
• TAMER FIX UG8 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 38.24060 / 40.81640 15 / 976 nm
• SORAR FIX UG8 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 38.62420 / 39.51250 65 / 1041 nm
• EZS VOR UG8 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 38.70830 / 39.22410 14 / 1056 nm ELAZIG
• BULUT FIX UG8 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 38.75610 / 38.90220 15 / 1071 nm
• GEM DME UG8 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 39.15530 / 36.02920 136 / 1208 nm GEMEREK VOR-DME
• BUK VOR UT32 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 40.24190 / 33.10490 150 / 1358 nm CUBUK (ANKARA)
• DEREL FIX UL602 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 40.71390 / 32.19330 50 / 1408 nm
• AKCAK FIX UL602 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 41.42890 / 30.72470 79 / 1487 nm
• MAKOL FIX UL602 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 42.17060 / 29.14280 83 / 1571 nm
• KARIL FIX - 0 / 0 47.79390 / 22.44220 441 / 2012 nm
• KEKED FIX - 0 / 0 48.52310 / 21.29140 63 / 2076 nm
• KELEL FIX - 0 / 0 49.31360 / 20.17530 64 / 2140 nm
• SUDOL FIX - 0 / 0 50.65330 / 18.41170 105 / 2246 nm
• AGALU FIX - 0 / 0 51.47140 / 17.38560 62 / 2308 nm
• ROVEK FIX - 0 / 0 53.37890 / 14.88170 146 / 2455 nm
• BINKA FIX - 0 / 0 53.75940 / 14.27560 31 / 2487 nm
• PENET FIX - 0 / 0 54.10030 / 13.72890 28 / 2515 nm
• ADUKI FIX - 0 / 0 54.32560 / 13.36030 18 / 2533 nm
• PEROM FIX - 0 / 0 54.45970 / 13.13770 11 / 2545 nm
• KOSEB FIX - 0 / 0 54.78000 / 12.59780 26 / 2572 nm
• RASVI FIX - 0 / 0 57.28960 / 8.04948 214 / 2786 nm
• GUNPA FIX - 0 / 0 61.00000 / 0.00000 332 / 3119 nm
• 64N010W LATLON - 0 / 0 64.00000 / -10.00000 330 / 3449 nm
• 6530N02000W LATLON - 0 / 0 65.30000 / -20.00000 268 / 3717 nm
• 67N030W LATLON - 0 / 0 67.00000 / -30.00000 263 / 3981 nm
• 68N040W LATLON - 0 / 0 68.00000 / -40.00000 237 / 4218 nm
• 68N050W LATLON - 0 / 0 68.00000 / -50.00000 224 / 4443 nm
• DARUB FIX - 0 / 0 67.00000 / -60.00000 237 / 4680 nm
• 66N070W LATLON - 0 / 0 66.00000 / -70.00000 246 / 4926 nm
• 64N080W LATLON - 0 / 0 64.00000 / -80.00000 280 / 5207 nm
• 6030N09000W LATLON - 0 / 0 60.30000 / -90.00000 357 / 5564 nm
• 55N100W LATLON - 0 / 0 55.00000 / -100.00000 451 / 6015 nm
• VLN VOR - 0 / 0 50.66690 / -104.89000 314 / 6330 nm LUMSDEN
• KU15S FIX - 0 / 0 47.50000 / -108.00000 226 / 6556 nm
• KU90Q FIX - 0 / 0 45.00000 / -110.00000 171 / 6728 nm
• PICHO FIX - 0 / 0 39.96670 / -112.58300 323 / 7051 nm
• TABLL FIX Q842 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 38.66560 / -113.17600 82 / 7134 nm
• WINEN FIX Q842 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 37.93330 / -113.50000 46 / 7180 nm
• EEVUN FIX Q73 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 37.04800 / -113.71200 54 / 7235 nm
• ZAINY FIX Q73 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 36.65690 / -113.90100 25 / 7260 nm
• GUNTR FIX Q73 (AWY-HI) 0 / 0 36.41100 / -114.03700 16 / 7276 nm
• HAKMN FIX - 0 / 0 35.50790 / -115.08000 74 / 7350 nm
O KLAX APT - 0 / 0 33.94310 / -118.40900 189 / 7539 nm Los Angeles Intl

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Ground ~20,000 ft ~40,000 ft Winds

OTHH

Details ICAO OTHH (DOH)
Name Hamad Intl
Region Qatar
Timezone Unknown
Stats Elevation 13 ft / 4 m (AMSL)
Location 25.274500° 51.607700°
Runways 2
Magnetic Variation 2.807° E

METAR

OTHH 281700Z AUTO 34015KT CAVOK 19/09 Q1018 NOSIG

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TAF

TAF OTHH 281701Z 2818/2924 31012KT CAVOK

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Departure Runways

ID Width Length Bearing (true/mag) Surface Threshold Overrun Markings Lighting
16L 197 ft / 60 m 15,927 ft / 4,855 m 158.28° / 155.48° ASPHALT 0 ft / 0 m 1,017 ft / 310 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD CALVERT-ILS TDZ REIL-OMNI
16R 197 ft / 60 m 13,957 ft / 4,254 m 158.28° / 155.47° ASPHALT 0 ft / 0 m 1,017 ft / 310 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD CALVERT-ILS TDZ REIL-OMNI
34L 197 ft / 60 m 13,957 ft / 4,254 m 338.28° / 335.48° ASPHALT 0 ft / 0 m 1,017 ft / 310 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD CALVERT-ILS TDZ REIL-OMNI
34R 197 ft / 60 m 15,927 ft / 4,855 m 338.29° / 335.48° ASPHALT 0 ft / 0 m 1,017 ft / 310 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD CALVERT-ILS TDZ REIL-OMNI

KLAX

Details ICAO KLAX (LAX)
Name Los Angeles Intl
Region United States
Timezone America/Los_Angeles (UTC-8.0)
Stats Elevation 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
Location 33.943100° -118.409000°
Runways 4
Magnetic Variation 11.377° E

METAR

KLAX 281753Z 10005KT 10SM FEW020 SCT120 BKN190 12/06 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP191 T01220061 10128 20067 51008

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TAF

TAF KLAX 281720Z 2818/2924 VRB03KT P6SM SKC FM282100 26010KT P6SM SKC FM290500 VRB03KT P6SM SKC FM290900 08005KT P6SM BKN025 FM291600 08005KT P6SM SCT035 FM291800 VRB03KT P6SM SKC FM292000 26010KT P6SM SKC

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Destination Runways

ID Width Length Bearing (true/mag) Surface Threshold Overrun Markings Lighting
06L 151 ft / 46 m 8,936 ft / 2,724 m 82.95° / 71.57° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 0 ft / 0 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD SALS REIL-OMNI
06R 151 ft / 46 m 10,896 ft / 3,321 m 82.95° / 71.57° CONCRETE 551 ft / 168 m 384 ft / 117 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD SALS TDZ REIL-OMNI
07L 151 ft / 46 m 12,935 ft / 3,943 m 82.95° / 71.58° CONCRETE 846 ft / 258 m 374 ft / 114 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSR REIL-OMNI
07R 200 ft / 61 m 11,106 ft / 3,385 m 82.96° / 71.58° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 381 ft / 116 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSR REIL-OMNI
24L 151 ft / 46 m 10,896 ft / 3,321 m 262.97° / 251.59° CONCRETE 814 ft / 248 m 384 ft / 117 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD SALS REIL-OMNI
24R 151 ft / 46 m 8,936 ft / 2,724 m 262.96° / 251.59° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 285 ft / 87 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
25L 200 ft / 61 m 11,106 ft / 3,385 m 262.98° / 251.60° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 381 ft / 116 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
25R 151 ft / 46 m 12,935 ft / 3,943 m 262.98° / 251.60° CONCRETE 968 ft / 295 m 197 ft / 60 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD SALS REIL-OMNI

Approach Navaids

Runway Type Ident Frequency Range Bearing (true/mag) Slope Elevation
06L DME IUWU 108.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 120 ft / 37 m (AMSL)
06L GS IUWU 108.50 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 82.97° / 71.59 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
06L MM MM - - 82.99° / 71.61 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
06L LOC-ILS IUWU 108.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 82.97° / 71.59 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
06R GS IGPE 111.70 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 82.97° / 71.59 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
06R MM MM - - 82.96° / 71.59 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
06R LOC-ILS IGPE 111.70 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 82.97° / 71.59 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
06R DME IGPE 111.70 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 120 ft / 37 m (AMSL)
07L GS IIAS 111.10 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 82.98° / 71.60 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
07L MM MM - - 82.97° / 71.59 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
07L DME IIAS 111.10 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 103 ft / 31 m (AMSL)
07L LOC-ILS IIAS 111.10 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 82.98° / 71.60 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
07R DME IMKZ 109.90 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 103 ft / 31 m (AMSL)
07R GS IMKZ 109.90 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 82.97° / 71.59 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
07R MM MM - - 82.97° / 71.60 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
07R LOC-ILS IMKZ 109.90 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 82.97° / 71.59 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24L MM MM - - 262.96° / 251.59 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24L LOC-ILS IHQB 111.70 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 262.97° / 251.59 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24L GS IHQB 111.70 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 262.97° / 251.59 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24L DME IHQB 111.70 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 133 ft / 41 m (AMSL)
24R IM IM - - 262.99° / 251.61 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24R OM OM - - 262.99° / 251.61 ° - 136 ft / 41 m (AMSL)
24R DME IOSS 108.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 133 ft / 41 m (AMSL)
24R LOC-ILS IOSS 108.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 262.97° / 251.59 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24R MM MM - - 262.99° / 251.61 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
24R GS IOSS 108.50 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 262.97° / 251.59 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25L DME ILAX 109.90 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25L OM OM - - 262.98° / 251.60 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25L LOC-ILS ILAX 109.90 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 262.97° / 251.59 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25L MM MM - - 262.98° / 251.60 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25L GS ILAX 109.90 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 262.97° / 251.59 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25L IM IM - - 262.98° / 251.60 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25R DME ICFN 111.10 MHz 18 nm / 33 km - - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25R OM OM - - 262.97° / 251.59 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25R MM MM - - 262.97° / 251.59 ° - 126 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25R LOC-ILS ICFN 111.10 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 262.98° / 251.60 ° - 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)
25R GS ICFN 111.10 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 262.98° / 251.60 ° 3.00° 125 ft / 38 m (AMSL)

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OTHH → KLAX
7,545 nm / 13,974 km
# decoded
Route: OTHH DEMBO ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR HAKMN KLAX
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7,545 nm / 13,974 km
# decoded
Route: OTHH DEMBO PATOM ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL WN864 VAKUP KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN LAKRR HAKMN KLAX
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7,545 nm / 13,974 km
# decoded
Route: OTHH DEMBO PATOM ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR HAKMN KLAX
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7,546 nm / 13,975 km
# decoded
Route: OTHH DEMBO PATOM ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL WN864 VAKUP KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR HAKMN KLAX
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7,545 nm / 13,974 km
# decoded
Route: OTHH DEMBO PATOM ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL WN864 KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR HAKMN KLAX
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7,545 nm / 13,974 km
# decoded
Route: OTHH DEMBO PATOM ITNAS DAVUS TASMI UL602 ALPET DEBNI SEVKU KABAN ULSAB UG8 GEM UT32 BUK UL602 MAKOL WN864 KARIL KEKED KELEL SUDOL AGALU ROVEK BINKA PENET ADUKI PEROM KOSEB RASVI GUNPA 64N010W 6530N02000W 67N030W 68N040W 68N050W DARUB 66N070W 64N080W 6030N09000W 55N100W VLN KU15S KU90Q PICHO Q842 WINEN Q73 GUNTR HAKMN KLAX
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